I am lost with what to do

Ollie and his recall is just getting worst !!!

Today we was out as a pack with shelley, plus 4 dogs all playing at foremark they are all playing so well together but ollie never comes close to the rest of the pack not even for treats or toys.

But today he has been worst then ever, to the point it was Dangerous, we were near a car park plus there was horse there too. but ollie just runs off in the opposite direction.

thank god for shelley being there she had to dive on him to catch him for me

I have walked away in the other direction, i have even paid him no attention at all and he still does not come back.

I have done all the basic's of long line recall with him, he does it great then when you let him off thats it, you can not get him back

even at dog training he has been the same latelly, when he does any recall he just thinks its freedom

so any ideas or help please let me know xxx

today was very dangerous .. luckily i caught ollie, but had he got to the horse, we could have been telling a very different story! .... it wasnt as if he hadnt had a decent walk... we'd been walking on the beach and through the woodlands for the best part of 3 hours! so he should have been more responsive .... but noooooo lol

he doesnt even follow my lot back when theyre shouted he stands a good distance away watching if you go towards him, he legs it

he will do recall on a long lead perfectly fine, you think you've mastered it and got it 100% ... then when he's offline ... its a no no

please help, any ideas or can anyone think of something i am doing wrong with ollie xxx

I really dont have much idea but you could try walking ollie on his own so its just you and him, keep him on a long line, keep practising recalls, and try make your time together really really fun, with treats and a ball as reward and lots and lots of praise?

My dad used to have a collie that had selected hearing & was very naughty

Have you tried a well enclosed field with no distraction initially and just having fun both of you with a recall and plenty of fuss, what about a clicker or whistle.

Can't say I've ever tried em myself but I just make tonnes of noise and sound excited and run the opposite way. Caius is doing well with his recall at the mo but I still sometimes worry will he or wont he .

Sorry I cant be much help but I hope you finds something that works for you both soon

yes suzie, i have tried a whistle and a clicker which have both been un-successfull,

but he has responded sometimes to a squicky toys but that is not all the time.

so next I am going to try going in some en-closed tennis courts that are local and start with the long line then progress with off lead.

however this does mean a early morning when no one is around to see us using the courts


I will keep you up dated on ollie's progress

oh and thanks for your ideas

Sorry to hear this

Cant give you any advice that the others havent already suggested

Mickey is one of those naughty dogs so i know exactly how you are feeling He has brilliant recall most of the time but he just cant be trusted offlead If he sees something he wants to chase then thats it hes gone We just cant take the chance with his anti social tendancies towards other dogs We walk him on an extendable lead now so he still gets a run about but its not the same

Hope you have better luck getting Ollie focused on something so he can have his offlead run abouts

well he has done a great re-call today with one of the trainers at dog training today x

so it's something i must be doing wrong, so its back to basic's for me

the little monkey

so glad he's done well today for ya hun One tip I was given is always end on a good note even if you have to put him on longline and recall him cos he's been a bugger off lead make sure you end with the positive

Congrats on a great recall today keep up the good work

well suzie it was not me that got the good recall it was one of the trainers

but they have now given me more help on what to do plus they said go back to basics because ollie can do it with them, its me that has got to be stronger with him

I know the feeling but it always gave me confidence to be stronger with Caius when I saw others doing it I'm a basics sort of person if they can do it you surely can keep at it it'll all be worth it in the end

STorm can be a bit tempramental with her recalls if she sees something and she goes its a nightmare to get her attention but when i run the other way she comes but i have to admit they come for the liver cake and some other treats even hot dogs seems to work with mine but they are food orientated or their special toy.

Hope it all works out for you!!

does he like squeaky toys , if so i would get one thats very loud , take away his other toys at home just play with the noisy one , make loads of fuss if he comes back to you , then when out for a walk i would take a ball but also have his squeaky toy in my pocket and if he don't come back straight away, start throwing the toy in the air squeaking it and just pretend you are having a whale of a time playing with his favourite toy, just my opinion

Ive battled with Vivas recall since i got her and i still dont let her off lead. Like you said with Ollie, she does it 100% perfect on the long lead. Tbh i dont think she will ever be trust worthy off lead, so i dont bother letting her off anymore. One thing may be to try going right back to basics, back on to the long lead and start again as if you were teaching him it for the first time.

bless viva she really is a character

i still dont let fred off where there are other dogs in sight either it doesnt bother him at all

he does get to go offlead when the field is empty though