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    PostSubject: separation anxiety   Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:57 pm

    Have any of you had a dog that has suffered with this if so what did you do to solve the problem.

    Kala has been the perfect pup, no problems with her, didnt have to crate her good as gold......until we came back from holiday where she was with us 24/7 BUT then we came straight back to Ed being on a day shift so we were both out the house by 7am, Julie the dog walker came about 10.45 and has them for 2 hours and we are back by 3.30 when that happens the other 2 weeks Eds around in the mornings and they are left for about 2 hours max, they are both left with stuffed Kongs and their toys,

    Kala is getting worse when we leave her the events of which i have told you about.

    when we are with her and out and about she is the most obedient well behaved dog you could wish to have.

    Any suggestions......apart from me giving up work which i cant afford to do but would love to!!

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:35 pm

    poor you an poor Kala.
    Bailey suffers SA and I have never been able to fix it
    he lies by the front door when I go out and whines. no one can move him until I get back.
    any visitors that call while I am out are answered by my OH... at the window
    if they want to come in they have to go around the back way coz Bailey wont move.
    I hope you can sort her out Judes, while people say to me awwww that's so cute,
    it's not it stresses me out tbh. so I knowe what you are going through

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:51 pm

    kala loves her mummy so much you best give up work Jude.

    I have read that one way to de-sensitise dogs from SA is to build up the time of seperation. First start by putting on your coat and then take it off.
    then putting on your coat and picking up your keys, then taking of your coat and putting down your keys...and so on. I know this could be a difficult one to over come Jude.
    Do you leave a radio on during the time you are away from them? Also do you have an old jumper you could leave in kala's crate? Just some ideas but i hope you find a solution.

    For some reason, molly has started barking out the back door about 2 mins after we have walked out the door, which sets the other two off howling.... . I just hope next door are out when it happens! She doesnt do it all the time.
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:57 pm

    i had this when boss was a pup.... every time we went out he destroyed the place... in the end we used to leave him in the hallway.... cleared it of everything he could eat chew or break... we warned the neighbours he would whine and bark... he was this way for 2 years until he grew out of it..... there wasnt much dog info about back then and no internet to get advice lol... so we just sort of dealt with it.... he turned out to be an amazing dog

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:07 am

    never had to deal with it jude but maybe this might help http://dogs.about.com/od/dogbehaviorproblems/a/sep_anxiety.htm

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:27 am

    Thanks Sue

    I leave music on when we go out, I leave them both with large stuffed kings and toys, she was never like this until we came back from holiday. I will give anything a try

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:37 am

    i used to save all small boxes when fred was little and i stuffed them with all manner of treats and then taped it up with duct tape and then poked small holes in so he could smell what was inside.... it must have kept him entertained

    you could try making tape recorings of your voice hun and play it on repeat while youre out on ... and every now and again you could throw in an ''are you behaving kala'' or '' and other soothing things

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:15 pm

    ive had this with kai,he has cost us a small fortune replacing everything that he has destroyed,can you not leave them both outside for a coupe of hrs,i have a kennel n run n leave door openx
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:06 am

    Lainee wrote:
    kala loves her mummy so much you best give up work Jude.

    I have read that one way to de-sensitise dogs from SA is to build up the time of seperation. First start by putting on your coat and then take it off.
    then putting on your coat and picking up your keys, then taking of your coat and putting down your keys...and so on. I know this could be a difficult one to over come Jude.
    Do you leave a radio on during the time you are away from them? Also do you have an old jumper you could leave in kala's crate? Just some ideas but i hope you find a solution.

    For some reason, molly has started barking out the back door about 2 mins after we have walked out the door, which sets the other two off howling.... . I just hope next door are out when it happens! She doesnt do it all the time.


    This is what I have heard of as well

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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:35 pm

    just been watching its me or the dog - n she gave 1 of the dogs a filled kong - that seemed to work - maybe leaving kongs n treats / a bone or something around would help too?
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:15 pm

    judes I am sorry to hear you are having these probs.


    I spoke with Malcolm re Brogan and his whining problems when we went out.

    May be worth asking over there
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:42 pm

    ive done all the things in this thread with kai,n was at my wits end with him,he was very destructive,he was2 in july n fingers crossed he is fine now and not destroyed anything for a while,although if i ever go anywhere and i no im going to be gone for more than2hrs i tend to leave him outside,which he seems to prefer,dont want to replace sofa for 3rd time,lol,i dont no if this is an age thing as well as something just seems to have clicked ,its a terrible thing though and i used to get really stressed out,how old is karlaxx
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:12 pm

    is it gsd you own? the reason i ask is they are a protective breed and very sensitive to change, if you haven't had any problems until you have come back from holiday i think this could've been the problem.... it sounds as though she has become very attached to you/ family in that time whereas when you were at work it was "the norm" to be left without you therefore no problems.... leaving the radio on is a good thing but i think to begin with you should record your voice and play that so that it runs for the length of time you are planning to be out.... this doesn't necessarily have to be your voice but general background noise of the house when people are in, as it goes on, increase the length of silence within the recording...at first you may want to pop out for a few minutes a couple of times a day (when you are not at work or have some time off) the idea is to gently bring back the "norm" instead of getting used to being around you all the time. This is the problem with dogs in general... nothing is temporary, if they have a change of scene or routine they see that as permanent, as their usual routine is changed and with most dogs it results in this type of behaviour...destructiveness, whining, barking, soiling or urinating while she is alone etc i think it might be a case of getting the "old" routine back, if she was with you 24/7 almost while you were on holiday i'd be guessing she was having way too much fun to worry about an upset routine and as i said before...this change would've been seen to her as permanent, there are no "holidays" to her, the concept of changing routine for a week or so means nothing to her and i think she is just reacting to that change. Toys are always good and it will help her cure the boredom of being left alone but if she is pining to be close to you the toys will hold no interest to her and she will be constantly looking for you which leads to the behaviour problems. maybe you could hide some treats or something around the house(not too many) or buy that toy where treats come out and is classed as a boredom buster ( can't remember the actual name) good luck with her and hope you can both get past this xxx
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:24 pm

    i've been sitting thinking and as this is new and has happened since she has spent alot of time away with you ...have you considered the use of a "dap collar?" i'm not 100% it will work but it might, it just basically calms the dog during a period of stress/anxiety etc such as fireworks, an anxious dog etc etc in your case it might be worth a try? just a thought xx
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    PostSubject: Re: separation anxiety   Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:05 pm

    Just wondering how Kala's been getting on Judes.

    I know you've been off over christmas how's she been since you went back to work this week?

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