i found this very interesting .... certainly makes you question things
but then doesnt everybody have a different opinion on training their dog ....

(the video link doesnt work, its been removed )

Dogs are pretty smart cookies. Unless something has gone wrong in their brains causing dominant or aggressive behavior, they can be turned around without violence, abuse, jerking, choking, lifting the dog off the ground, or anything like that. True positive training does not include any of these things. True positive training is making an agreement with the dog to learn to trust and be confident again. If a dog will not agree to work with you, no matter what you try to do or how many times you can get it to “submit” to you, you will not win. A dog who does not agree is a dog who will not work with you. Think about that for a second. The last time that someone yelled at or jerked you around and made you do something, did you take it as constructive criticism and change your ways or do you still harbor some ill will?

http://thedish.sitstay.com/

i love cesar millan, but when you read the link you certainly begin to think whether his methods can be used by just anybody....

Everybody has an opinion and I suppose you just have to find someone you believe in and stick with them.

Watched Victoria Stilwell on tele the other day. She threw the prong collar in the 'trash' saying it was cruel. Along with one of those collars designed to stop your dog barking