Who is still using the dogmatic head collar?    I want to get a new head collar for Mickey but not sure which one to go for     Keira hates her dogmatic and always ends up frothing at the mouth whenever ive used it so i use a normal halti on her now
Mickey also has a halti but it rides up into his eyes and irritates him so i need to get something else    He does tend to pant heavier than Keira so i was thinking the dogmatic might restrict his breathing    Im wondering if maybe Keiras is a bit small    I did buy the one for the large gsd so as far as i was aware it is the correct size  Im also wondering if the leather one is a better fit
Anyone who uses one let me know what you think please      Thanks

I use a ''gencon''

I have used a halti, a gencon but find that the dogmatics are the best for Molly as they are just like a horses headcollar. Unfortunately a little madam (not naming anyone....Tess) chewed the leather one I had!

I still use the dogmatic on Marley. he has 3!! I got size 3L but when I got that size for Marley in the leather and it was too small for him.

I was going to try the gencon What type do you use Hillary? The all in one or the head collar i think i may order both i can then use the head collar with the extendable lead if we walk the dogs somewhere where other dogs are about
Atleast if i try the gencon it can be used for Keira aswell if not suitable for Mickey
Yes Jude the problem with the dogmatic is the size i followed the measuring process but i still think Keiras is too small Did you swop Marleys for a bigger size? I hate having to send stuff back

I didn't get on with the Dogmatic, Bren is too hairy and it did my head in with the doing up and undoing

I have 2 Gencon's, they fit all mine, from Bryn to Hazel, though I don't really use one on her. But if I take all 3 out together I use a Gencon on Misty and Bryn and Hazel has a normal collar on, it gives me security that if something did happen I would have control over the stronger 2 dogs.

If I take them seperately I don't need a Gencon as they all are reasonably OK with a sharpe correction a hundred times

I also have the Halti for Bryn, which I like, but the Gencon is used because it's easy slip on slip off

Bren I have the all-in-one Gencons

Thanks Sandra I must admit i like the look of the slip on one aswell but like i said we sometimes use the extendable leads so would get a head collar aswell

Bren is too hairy thanks for that I take it you meant Bryn

opps I meant Bryn coz I haven't actually examined you for the amount of hair on your body

i dont use headcollars but fro what i have advised clients on ect the dogmatics are ace they get the leather ones and i have also heard great reviews on the gencon too good luck hun hope you find the one that works best

I dont use a headcollar anymore on Viva, but i used to use the halti but it kept rubbing her eyes, and she was an odd size, she was inbetween 2. I did swap from the halti to the gentle leader and it was great. I do keep it in the car just in case.

i dont use a dogmatic on fred anymore, but when i did it was brilliant, loads better than all the other headcollars ive used, and ive tried them all lol....

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i think what makes them good is they do sit nicely on the dogs muzzle doesnt rub into the eyes ect so you do have more control as it stay in place