is this a rip off cesar millan?... ive never heard of him until now :thinking: .....

i read the free report you get when you put your e-mail address in.....

:nhy: ... i cant say he impressed me from what i read....and to get to know how to become pack leader you have to go to a website and no doubt buy it :2431: ....

hes a second hand broken cesar millan :2431:

http://www.tony-knight.co.uk/obediencereport

never heard of him :nhy:

ahh couldnt be arsed reading it so many ppl jump on the back of things dont they if they are good fair nuth but for the most part they are not lol

I read this last week, I actually thought he sounded ok and yes, very Cesarish to me

I was happy with what he said, its very similar to what I think anyway

do you think paula... i wasnt sure... it sounded like some of it was conflicting advice lol... but then i am slow to take things in... :2431:

I will have a look again, cant remember exactly what he said, I was only interested in the parts about obedience training not the be all and end all of dog training

I just realised, he is Jan Fennells son

whos jan fennel hun :thinking:

Shes the "original dog listener" in the UK, according to some.

http://www.janfennellthedoglistener.com/

I read one of her books a few years ago, it was ok. Made sense in some ways as far as I can remember.

I dont tend to follow and "training methods" though, Cesar comes the closest to me and he doesnt really "train" so I tend to read it, see what other people could take from it and carry on as I was already :2445:

http://www.k9-gems.co.uk/index_AmichienBonding.htm

Its all about pack leadership etc etc this link will give you a quick overview

pretty much the same as cesar ......

im the same.... i watch different training methods and use what it best for me... i mix and match :2431:

Yep, all dogs are different anyway so there cant be just one universal thing for all dogs :nhy:

:nhy: :nhy: ....

i took a stick out with me today, i took fred somewhere we hadnt been before, so it was more for protection against strays, an to make me feel more powerful lolol...

i used it as cesar does, to push fred back if he walks out in front.... it worked a treat lol... after he discovered that widening the gap between us didnt mean i couldnt reach him... :2445: .... he doesnt pull anymore anyway...just thought i would try it... :2431:

Oh nice one. I've used a stick before too, works a treat

Mimi is a pain in the arse with the pushchair, she will walk perfectly to heel, for the pushchair, which is slightly more forward than I like :2445: Without it, she walks properly

I need to get my arse into gear though, I dont take them out myself as much as I used to cos of them dogs and they are starting to push their luck a little and slightly pulling me towards something that looks interesting. Their "pulling slightly" drags me a few steps before I can get control again and its not on :nhy:

It does make you wonder exactly how strong they are cos when they drag me like that, they arent really trying :2431:

fred used to be the same paula....i think walking him with the pushcahir so much was a bad thing....he always walked to heel with the pushchair..therefore making him walk ahead of me when the pushchair wasnt there ....

when the OH has hold of fred... he pulls... its annoying, thats why i hate him walking him lol... cos then he tries it on with me lol...

i bet if they wanted to paula they could have you over in a heartbeat ....