Thats the thing faz you do real work with yours though dont you. I just wished more people had better controll, like you i spend alot of my time getting rid of dogs that have come up to me. Like we have both said before it dont matter whats around its neck if it hasnt learnt a recall. I agree all the do gooders on any harsh treatment (what they call harsh) dont live in the real world. :love:

agree hun just cant stand these ppl who are saying its animal cruelty be nice for these ppl to actually see my dogs work i know a few of you have seen the clips of them working and their tails are going no signs of stress ect they love it

but i didnt enter into it lightly and felt bad putting it on first time but he will pull into it as im putting it on as he wants me to hurry up and get it on so he can go out lol it hasnt effected him at all lol

haveing said that his pain threshold(sp) is sooooooooo high hes broke his tail sliced his toe clean off nearly twice now and showed no signs i only noticed the tail cos the tip fell lol and you can feel the break in it now god knows how that happend we all blame keke lol

wouldnt dream of putting it on meg or dillan for that matter they completly diff types of dogs ohhh well lol off to tesco in a min i think getting dragged out i dont want to go tho !!

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nope i got out of it cos of my sore mouth :2879: yea so just had to make my tea instead lmao

I'm with you on that Farah my face ache is back. Its comming back before i have chance to get to dentist. ..... Now thats what really annoys me at mo :san42:

:love: awww hun well i think i want to rip my mouth out at mo lmao so i feel for you i really do and the anti B's are making me feel soooooo ill lol

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